linux/include
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen 4876376988 Revert "mac80211: Dynamically set CoDel parameters per station"
This reverts commit 484a54c2e5. The CoDel
parameter change essentially disables CoDel on slow stations, with some
questionable assumptions, as Dave pointed out in [0]. Quoting from
there:

  But here are my pithy comments as to why this part of mac80211 is so
  wrong...

   static void sta_update_codel_params(struct sta_info *sta, u32 thr)
   {
  -       if (thr && thr < STA_SLOW_THRESHOLD * sta->local->num_sta) {

  1) sta->local->num_sta is the number of associated, rather than
  active, stations. "Active" stations in the last 50ms or so, might have
  been a better thing to use, but as most people have far more than that
  associated, we end up with really lousy codel parameters, all the
  time. Mistake numero uno!

  2) The STA_SLOW_THRESHOLD was completely arbitrary in 2016.

  -               sta->cparams.target = MS2TIME(50);

  This, by itself, was probably not too bad. 30ms might have been
  better, at the time, when we were battling powersave etc, but 20ms was
  enough, really, to cover most scenarios, even where we had low rate
  2Ghz multicast to cope with. Even then, codel has a hard time finding
  any sane drop rate at all, with a target this high.

  -               sta->cparams.interval = MS2TIME(300);

  But this was horrible, a total mistake, that is leading to codel being
  completely ineffective in almost any scenario on clients or APS.
  100ms, even 80ms, here, would be vastly better than this insanity. I'm
  seeing 5+seconds of delay accumulated in a bunch of otherwise happily
  fq-ing APs....

  100ms of observed jitter during a flow is enough. Certainly (in 2016)
  there were interactions with powersave that I did not understand, and
  still don't, but if you are transmitting in the first place, powersave
  shouldn't be a problemmmm.....

  -               sta->cparams.ecn = false;

  At the time we were pretty nervous about ecn, I'm kind of sanguine
  about it now, and reliably indicating ecn seems better than turning it
  off for any reason.

  [...]

  In production, on p2p wireless, I've had 8ms and 80ms for target and
  interval for years now, and it works great.

I think Dave's arguments above are basically sound on the face of it,
and various experimentation with tighter CoDel parameters in the OpenWrt
community have show promising results[1]. So I don't think there's any
reason to keep this parameter fiddling; hence this revert.

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/CAA93jw6NJ2cmLmMauz0xAgC2MGbBq6n0ZiZzAdkK0u4b+O2yXg@mail.gmail.com/
[1] https://forum.openwrt.org/t/reducing-multiplexing-latencies-still-further-in-wifi/133605/130

Suggested-By: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
In-memory-of: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>
Link: https://patch.msgid.link/20250403183930.197716-1-toke@toke.dk
Signed-off-by: Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>
History 2025-04-23 15:22:11 +02:00
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acpi misc: Constify amba_id table 2025-03-29 18:25:34 -07:00
asm-generic RISC-V Patches for the 6.15 Merge Window, Part 1 2025-04-04 09:49:17 -07:00
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drm Driver Changes: 2025-04-11 09:11:08 +10:00
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hyperv x86/hyperv: Add comments about hv_vpset and var size hypercall input args 2025-03-21 18:24:22 +00:00
keys keys: drop shadowing dead prototype 2025-01-21 11:25:23 +02:00
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linux wifi: free SKBTX_WIFI_STATUS skb tx_flags flag 2025-04-23 15:09:25 +02:00
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media media: v4l2-core: Introduce v4l2_query_ext_ctrl_to_v4l2_queryctrl 2025-03-05 10:43:26 +01:00
memory memory: renesas-rpc-if: Remove Runtime PM wrappers 2023-01-23 11:48:00 +01:00
misc cxl: Remove driver 2025-03-16 22:04:27 +11:00
net Revert "mac80211: Dynamically set CoDel parameters per station" 2025-04-23 15:22:11 +02:00
pcmcia ARM: pxa/sa1100: move I/O space to PCI_IOBASE 2022-05-07 22:56:17 +02:00
ras PCI/ERR: Handle TLP Log in Flit mode 2025-02-21 17:31:45 -06:00
rdma RDMA/mlx5: Fix compilation warning when USER_ACCESS isn't set 2025-04-07 15:14:34 -03:00
rv rv: Reset per-task monitors also for idle tasks 2025-01-23 12:16:04 -05:00
scsi scsi: usb: Rename the RESERVE and RELEASE constants 2025-02-12 22:20:55 -05:00
soc soc: driver updates for 6.15, part 1 2025-03-27 09:05:55 -07:00
sound soundwire updates for 6.15 2025-04-01 12:43:13 -07:00
target scsi: target: iscsi: switch to using the crc32c library 2024-12-01 17:23:02 -08:00
trace tracing/timers: Rename the hrtimer_init event to hrtimer_setup 2025-04-05 10:30:17 +02:00
uapi fwctl/cxl: Fix uuid_t usage in uapi 2025-04-11 20:45:43 -03:00
ufs scsi: ufs: core: Add device level exception support 2025-04-03 10:54:31 -04:00
vdso vdso: Address variable shadowing in macros 2025-04-10 11:07:10 +02:00
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Kbuild drm: ensure drm headers are self-contained and pass kernel-doc 2025-02-12 10:44:43 +02:00